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Post by Milwaukee GM (Souriyo) on Feb 13, 2016 3:07:56 GMT
As of 2017, fantasy baseball will be scored in a H2H Categories format with the following 7x7 parameters:
Hitters:
AVG OBP SLG R RBI HR SB
Pitchers:
QS Holds Saves Ks ERA WHIP K/9
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Post by Milwaukee GM (Souriyo) on Feb 13, 2016 3:10:43 GMT
An alternative scoring that I am considering is replacing OBP and SLG with AVG and OPS, so we are specifically rewarding bat to ball contact to get on base while still rewarding slugging and walks.
Also, for pitchers, Wins is the iffiest of stats, but I do agree winning does matter. What this will do is add value to middle relievers too. Otherwise, holds are also an option. Finally, K/9 is the other parameter I was considering as opposed to counting Ks, because we won't have a big enough league to avoid streaming.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2016 14:30:35 GMT
I would really prefer not to use wins since they are the stat the a SP can control the least. I also think changing saves to saves+holds can be valuable too.
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Post by Milwaukee GM (Souriyo) on Feb 13, 2016 19:08:13 GMT
I would really prefer not to use wins since they are the stat the a SP can control the least. I also think changing saves to saves+holds can be valuable too. Yeah these categories are flexible. I don't like using wins either but I know some purists are into them. If we take out wins we would need another parameter to realign the 6x6 though.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2016 21:20:50 GMT
If I had to vote, I would pick SLG just because I think between OBP and the counting stats it is mostly covered, but that's just my preference.
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Post by Milwaukee GM (Souriyo) on Feb 13, 2016 21:44:48 GMT
However if we wanted to keep it 6x6, what about
Hitters: AVG OPS Rs RBIs HRs SB
Pitchers: QS ERA WHIP Ks Holds Saves
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Post by Dallas GM (naked) on Feb 14, 2016 23:23:10 GMT
I've not considered holds and saves as separate categories before. Overall, I'm cool with these.
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Post by Chicago GM (bhappy1) on Feb 15, 2016 18:00:51 GMT
What's the point of having quality start I mean of win isn't a category so are we saying a quality start is much better than a win if so that doesn't make much sense
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Post by Milwaukee GM (Souriyo) on Feb 15, 2016 18:26:11 GMT
Yeah we kind of are saying that. Wins are a fluky stat. A pitcher can go 9 innings and give up one unearned run and not get a win. You're not going to tell me that that wasn't a "quality start". Quality starts account for both longevity and limiting runs. You can earn a win by pitching five innings and giving up 7 runs as long as your team scores 8, but that's a crappy outing. Quality starts takes the variable of your offense's performance out of it. Last year, for example, Shelby Miller was a breakout pitcher, posting a 3.02 ERA. Some advanced analytics may say that he was a bit fortunate because his WHIP was higher than desired, but he finished the season 6-17 in 33 starts. He pitched a hell of a lot better than 6-17, but since the Braves were crap, that's how it ended up. On the other end, you have Colby Lewis for the Rangers, for example, who went 17-9 with a 4.66 ERA because the Rangers offense was, frankly better. Quality starts are a purer way of measuring the quality of a pitcher. Bad teams have great pitchers and good teams have terrible ones, that's just what we try to balance out.
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Post by Chicago GM (bhappy1) on Feb 15, 2016 18:32:15 GMT
Okay sounds good
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Post by Dallas GM (naked) on Feb 15, 2016 21:08:14 GMT
Would people be in favor of having a minimum innings/starts pitched? It would mitigate the strategy to only/primarily use RPs, which I feel would give this more of a franchise feel. Something not too major, say like 5 starts/30 innings?
In a redraft I wouldn't care, but if we want to do a dynasty/contract league, I think going this route makes sense.
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Post by Milwaukee GM (Souriyo) on Feb 15, 2016 21:28:58 GMT
Would people be in favor of having a minimum innings/starts pitched? It would mitigate the strategy to only/primarily use RPs, which I feel would give this more of a franchise feel. Something not too major, say like 5 starts/30 innings? In a redraft I wouldn't care, but if we want to do a dynasty/contract league, I think going this route makes sense. Yeah I think we should implement a minimum starts baseline. 4 or 5 starts does seem reasonable.
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Post by Chicago GM (bhappy1) on Feb 28, 2016 3:51:48 GMT
He'll yea
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